[+][OOC-Chat] Seenal: there was an IC rape, it happened completely privately among OOCly consenting players. This was like a year ago.
[+][OOC-Chat] Kuzco: Oh.
[+][OOC-Chat] Seenal: the RP affected everyone in the game because it didn't stay secret.
[+][OOC-Chat] Seenal: players and at least one GM were quitting game sessions because there was so much chatter about the details on SIC.
[+][OOC-Chat] Kuzco: Wow.
[+][OOC-Chat] Seenal: they couldn't escape it without silencing SIC, which is an IC option but not a fair one to the player.
[+][OOC-Chat] Seenal: The @rule was not changed, but the community standard now is that exposing players to rapey RP in a way they can't consent to is to be avoided. That's why SIC is touchy.
[+][OOC-Chat] Kuzco: I don't understand the change.
[+][OOC-Chat] Seenal: one occurrence of the word isn't against the @rules, but it's proably right to counsel newer players not to go there.
[+][OOC-Chat] Dittolicious: You can't say no to surprise SIC.
[+][OOC-Chat] Mythologique throws up hazard signs.
[+][OOC-Chat] Mythologique [to Seenal]: Thanks for taking the time to explain.
[+][OOC-Chat] Seenal: you're welcome
[+][OOC-Chat] Seenal: i'm thinking about loggging this and putting it on the BGBB for easy reference
[+][OOC-Chat] Mythologique: I'm seeing fires started.
[+][OOC-Chat] Mythologique: Maybe if a GM posted the log it would go down easier?
[+][OOC-Chat] Seenal: makes sense.
[+][OOC-Chat] Mythologique: And, maybe some caps warning what it contains....I dunno. I've never been somewhere where it was such a touchy subject to be honest.
[+][OOC-Chat] Staff Cinnamon Toast Crunch: If it makes you feel any better, I approve this message.
[+][OOC-Chat] Seenal: i've never even been raped but if I was, say, in Starbucks and the next people over were talking at length and in detail about a rape they knew had happened, perpetrated by someone they knew, I'd be touchy enough to leave. Now imagine someone who *has* been violated, and how *they'd* feel.
[+][OOC-Chat] Kuzco: This is a gritty game.
[+][OOC-Chat] Mythologique: [[...]] everyone handles things like that differently.
[+][OOC-Chat] Seenal: well I agree it's a slippery slope and that's why it wasn't made a @rule or an amendment to a @rule. Next would be mental illness. Next would be drug addiction. Next would be PDS.
[+][OOC-Chat] Seenal: Oh, wait.
[+][OOC-Chat] Mythologique: And, there are just certain subjects that really...why would you talk about that publicly? I get it. It's unfortunate that it affected people so negatively.
[+][OOC-Chat] Kuzco [to Seenal]: Yes, it's a neverending road.
[+][OOC-Chat] Seenal: it affected high profile game characters and you know what SIC is like. Everyone has their say.
[+][OOC-Chat] Seenal: Over and over and over again.
[+][OOC-Chat] Seenal: it took a few weeks for staff to say 'the game needs this to stop'.
[+][OOC-Chat] SoulTune: Why is that?
[+][OOC-Chat] Kuzco: Weeks?
[+][OOC-Chat] Seenal: because instant censorship sucks
[+][OOC-Chat] Mythologique: It's just like someone being killed and having Signal and using SIC to talk about it. Big traumatic events will go on SIC.
[+][OOC-Chat] Seenal: it wasn't done without repeated instances of players and at least one GM who couldn't handle it to @quit for a while
[+][OOC-Chat] Seenal: it was intense. The SIC content.
[+][OOC-Chat] Seenal: for weeks.
[+][OOC-Chat] Seenal: Any questions?
[+][OOC-Chat] Kuzco: A real shitstorm right?
[+][OOC-Chat] Seenal: people IC STILL talk about one of the perpetrators.
[+][OOC-Chat] Seenal: sometimes
[-][Game-Help] Annaliese: I apologize for jumping my gun there on the "R" word. It's a touchy subject and, in my own opinion, best avoided using the word in general.
[-][Game-Help] Mello: no no, its understandable. I used it because it seemed suitably vulgar and insensitive
[-][Game-Help] Annaliese: You're fine, Mello. It -isn't- against the @rules but...it's just easier not to go there. Molest, harass, other good words.
[-][Game-Help] Evald: well said