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Is it possible to have multi-state clothing, such as jackets that can be zipped up, or coveralls that can be rolled down around the waist?
Such an item, even if it doubled the materials cost, would be pretty slick, allowing the wearer a bit more freedom in how they wear their clothing.
By RedSteelButterfly at Sep 16, 2019 9:52 PM
All I've ever wanted is to roll shirt sleeves +1
By Revex at Sep 16, 2019 9:52 PM
Ha, the new game meta.
'A hulking hooded mano rolls up his sleeves'.
By RedSteelButterfly at Sep 16, 2019 9:53 PM
+1 -- I've wanted this for so long. Support for toggleable @coverage would be amazing.
By KitchenSink at Sep 16, 2019 9:55 PM
+1
The fact that I can't close jackets makes me insane. Let's do this!
By DoveCage at Sep 17, 2019 6:57 AM
On tailored clothes you can do this in the tease messages. It won't change the state of it, of course.
By Qurion2 at Sep 17, 2019 6:59 AM
Get your old-fashioned, dirty ass Lone Star Republic clothing out of this fine Withmorian establishment before I have to call the law on you, partner.
By TalonCzar at Sep 17, 2019 7:05 AM
I love this, it also makes me want to kill myself, but it it could simply be an activate message like prog cloth and then change the coverage, that would be nice.
By Varolokkur at Sep 17, 2019 7:09 AM
Hoodies should be legal, just don't pull the hood up. Problem solved for topsie hood fashions.
By Evie at Sep 17, 2019 7:13 AM
By Evie at Sep 17, 2019 7:13 AM
By TalonCzar at Sep 17, 2019 7:14 AM
@TalonCzar This is an American joke, isn't it. It gives me a bit of an inappropriate vibe.
Don't think it's related to this thread, chum. :X
By Evie at Sep 17, 2019 7:25 AM
By Grizzly666 at Sep 17, 2019 8:17 AM
@Talon That is perfect.
@Evie Yes, it's a show that was called Kay and Peele that made a lot of jokes parodying racial stereotypes in the US. The point is showing how ridiculous profiling can be.
By Varolokkur at Sep 17, 2019 8:22 AM
My opinion on that particular slice of this thread, and not to derail, that topside is portrayed by the white surburbs and Mixers in hoodies by Peel(or is it key I forget) and the WJF and their no disguise policy by the police officer. It’s a fitting joke, especially since classism can be thinly veiled racism at times.
By Grizzly666 at Sep 17, 2019 8:39 AM
It hurts my brain to consider how we evaluate /if/ you can toggle your clothing, but I would like to support this on player material one day.
By Johnny at Sep 17, 2019 8:41 AM
Maybe add the ability for tailors to add a command like "roll sleeves on shirt", and then have them write in new messages for that state?
By Revex at Sep 17, 2019 8:44 AM
toggle_
as the verb@worn_1 description one
@toggle_message_1 Emote room state 1 transition
@worn_2 description two
@toggle_message_2 Emote room state 2 transition
Clothing always defaults to state one when first worn.
By TalonCzar at Sep 17, 2019 8:46 AM
Bah, forums. toggle_article as the verb.
By TalonCzar at Sep 17, 2019 8:47 AM
Tell me if I'm wrong, but I get the sense the issue is more about having to have two worn messages, meaning the clothing needs to switch between two states. It sounds simple but is taking something stable and adding all sorts of possible bugs that can easily affect these sorts of things and make everything explode.
By Varolokkur at Sep 17, 2019 8:48 AM
I could see this being implemented in two different ways.
First, two different 'objects' that are linked and switched between upon command or second, one object with doubled up values for the applicable areas that display the appropriate values when a flag on the object is in a specific state. The second way would probably be lighter weight on the server, and undoubtedly easier to clean up. It would also allow for many numbers of states (the limiting factor is the object flags, if I'm correct).
By RedSteelButterfly at Sep 17, 2019 8:55 AM
Posing is a lost art.
I suspect people aren't going to parse through the three paragraphs of shirt description to see if one has got an extra button open as much as one might imagine, what's wrong with just emoting state changes? New @coverage, @owear @worn messages and all the bloat to go along with it, just to unzip your jacket?
By 0x1mm at Sep 17, 2019 11:18 AM
@0x1mm,
While posing is truly remarkable, it is not persistent. I know that in the grand scheme of RP, precisely what I am wearing outside of coded items has no real effect, but it is one of the spices that flavors the RP we do. If I wanted to zip up my worn out combat jacket, I would have to pose each time someone entered the scene.
What if i was wearing a protest shirt topside and wanted to conceal it while passing judges? Do i now pose to every judge that I am purposefully holding my jacket closed and that my description does not reflect what they are able to see?
By RedSteelButterfly at Sep 17, 2019 11:21 AM
I mean yes, you can reproduce all that with posing + expose, but having multi-state clothes would be 100% awesome.
By Marleen at Sep 17, 2019 11:22 AM
Is this one of those mystical Ideas posts where everyone agreed? Or do I need more coffee?
By DoveCage at Sep 18, 2019 4:57 AM
Bumping this because I still want it please.
By RedSteelButterfly at Aug 27, 2020 5:29 PM
Funny to read my old reply now.
I've become much more pro-description on everything in the last year, having different @worns that can be toggled between I think would be very cool.
Secondary @worns on items could do a lot of interesting things like allow multi-state clothing, or player-customized descriptions on retail items like cyberwear and armor.
I know Slither said he was worried about bloat when we discussed item cutomization at the town hall, but I think conceptually it's fun to think about still.
By 0x1mm at Aug 27, 2020 5:43 PM
This could be added to exposing disguises, expose me knocks back the hood of the poncho/hoodie so that people can see your face.
By NyanChicken at Aug 28, 2020 8:20 PM
I was about to post a new thread for the same idea. Glad I checked first. +1
By RatchetEffect at Jan 20, 2021 2:51 PM
With the new ‘face’ body location, we added some fundamental code that will make this feasible in the future. We just need to figure out how we want to make it happen at this point.
By Johnny at Jan 23, 2021 4:59 PM
Johnny someone should give you a medal.
By Pavane at Jan 23, 2021 5:00 PM
Has any progress been made on this? It would be a great feature, particularly being able to open/close jackets, coats, etc.
By Blackbird71 at Jan 13, 2022 6:02 AM
This is not currently a priority.
It would be great if we could offer alternative messages depending on gender, too. There will likely be, one day, a greater revisiting on clothing 2.0, where all these features come at once now that we're on ToastStunt.
2022 will probably not be that year.
By MirageGM at Feb 17, 2022 8:53 AM