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"If you do this I will leave the city."
Please consider what you say before you say it.

I've seen this about a dozen times in the past couple of days and it's starting to really drag me down.

I know that if things go wrong for your character that it can seem like a valid IC reason to "leave" the city, but we don't allow you to leave, you have to suicide. So, it's not a very solid threat to be making from an OOC/IC persective.

That brings me to my second point, if you are going to threaten someone with, "If you do X, I will leave the city." the responses to this I am seeing indicate that people will change up their entire roleplay to prevent this, because either A, they don't want to be the reason someone suicides a good character, or B, they don't want to lose an RP partner.

I think this response to conflict and consequence is more impactful OOCly than it is ICly, while I can see there may be valid uses for it, I haven't observed one situation that makes me feel like it's actually a good idea to use.

So, while there's no rules against this, please stop and consider that what you're saying may be asking people to make a conscious OOC choice instead of an IC choice for their character, and be aware that we're watching and if habits start to form in the realm of OOC guilt to prevent IC consequences, even if it's indirect, we may just have to adjust rules or policy to try to protect people from being victimized by OOC guilt.

Thanks for taking the time to improve your roleplay.


Thank you for bumping this.
I know the history with the GM who posted this, but this is perhaps the single greatest piece of advice he gave the playerbase.

This is not a single incident from any single individual, but something that's happened more frequently lately in very edge cases. Please reconsider these types of threats. It is not fair to the players on the other end. At all. The game isn't for everyone, if you need breaks please take them, take care of your mental health first and foremost, always weigh your enjoyment of the PC you're playing or where you or others have led them. If you think something out of bounds has happened and it's making you consider leaving the game because of it, please address it with staff who are equipped to handle this from an OOC standpoint and have a much broader source of information.

But please don't threaten to leave the city if someone does/did X to your character or if your character cannot get X done for them. It's so very simple to say 'I'll be out of the city for a bit.' or 'I need to go handle some stuff.' But no one wants to be responsible for someone else leaving the game and no one's trying to push anyone out of the game.

I think this is being directed to me and I want to apologize. I am a new player here and this thread is good advice. I had never seen it before.

I am feeling very isolated and trapped ICly and I have no idea what to do OOCly about it. I feel like i keep getting shot down with my ideas ICly so the most prominent thought in my head is to move on to a new character and try to do better next time.

I won't use those words in my RP anymore, I hadn't really thought about it in this context and I apologize sincerely, I did not intend to impart guilt, only that I am running out of energy for trying to find ways to change my fate but I understand and acknowledge why it is still wrong and could hurt the player on the other side or influence their RP in a way that is wrong to do.

Honestly, JakeyBoy, I've seen it so much on so many different characters, it's unlikely to be directed at you. As crashdown said, it's not about any individual characters. It's just something that has been an issue in the game since... at least 2018, from the looks of this thread. It's also good to reflect and improve, don't sweat it too much.

I think it's also fair to retire characters if they're at the end of their rope and things aren't looking up for them. Sometimes you can't achieve your goals, and that sucks, but that's also part of the theme, and if you're comfortable that being the end of the story, that's fine. It's just best not to use it as a threat to other players to change their courses of action, which is what the main issue of the thread seems to be, whether anyone knowingly or unknowingly does so.